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Disappointment and Grief, finding a new normal by Annie Highwater

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Annie returns with an article published in Allies in recovery found at http://alliesinrecovery.net
        “Disappointment and Grief, finding a new normal”
In this week’s Allies in Recovery conversation we concentrated on disappointment and grief. Which for me, are interwoven.  Grief involves loss, which means hope deflates into disappointment as plans and visions are redirected, if not completely cut down.

I’m very familiar with the shock of upheaval and change, along with the processes of struggle and resistance that soon follow.  Many times I have had to make my way through dark times to reach a place of acceptance and peace, where I could find hope again.

In my own life, I have personally experienced three significant seasons of loss, grief and disappointment.    As a result of those times, I’ve grieved the loss of people, homes, pets and plans.

As described in my book “Unhooked”, the first experience was during the death of my Father which mercilessly occurred during my divorce.    The second was after my son experienced an injury in football and a dependency upon pain medication followed, tearing through our lives like an out of control freight train.

The third was when my son moved out of state, just before the sudden death of our beloved family dog, as a handful of other unexpected things happened that turned my life upside down.  I quickly and without warning found myself almost overnight becoming an Empty Nester, having several unexpected job, home and life changes occur in a short span of time.  I was soon deeply mourning the life I thought I would have.  It was a lot to process.

Loss. Shock. Change. Upheaval.

I don’t know about you, but for me – when it rains it pours.

In these times I tend to become wide awake and acutely aware of my life, my pulse and my surroundings, with all senses heightened. Seeming to emotionally and even physically lose my balance, unable to regain stable footing, with every frame of reference familiar to me altered.  On my worst days I found it hard to breathe in public.

(Please note – if you’re close to someone going through a loved one’s struggle with SUD, or other types of loss, shock, change or upheaval, it’s a powerful thing to come alongside with comfort and presence.  Gestures of kindness and compassion are extremely potent boosts of encouragement and hope for anyone enduring dark, painful days.)

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Finding a new normal

 “Every disappointment, every failure and every heartache carries with it the Seed of an equivalent or a greater Benefit” ~Napolean Hill

Finding hope again takes time, it’s a process and we may experience at least a few of the five stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance; grief.com) before reconciling ourselves to how different life is actually panning out from what we’d envisioned.

After loss, change and disappointment, things will never be the same, but that doesn’t mean life can’t become good again.

Sometimes things fall apart and are rebuilt stronger.  There are times when a massive life change is actually an awakening to the value of life.

I recently had a conversation with a man named Brad regarding his obvious energy and enthusiasm every time I see him.  He began telling how he went through a heartbreaking divorce that he didn’t want or expect.  He was beyond devastated and quite naturally, unsure how to start life over.  Brad described for me how it seemed as though one day he was grilling dinner in his backyard, mowing the lawn, driving a sedan and planning to spend the rest of his days doing so…to the next, sitting alone in a one room apartment in the city, isolated and bewildered.  His life had become unrecognizable. I believe many of us who have suffered loss and upheaval can relate.

The defeat and loss he felt were overwhelming, lasting months and months.  One day, a compassionate friend stopped by to see Brad.  The friend scheduled a fishing trip for the two of them to Miami where for the next few days he intentionally spoke hope and possibility back into the grieving man’s soul.   Stepping outside of his routine of loss and hopelessness woke Brad up to the idea of a new lease on life.

When Brad returned from the trip he thought long and hard about his new set of circumstances, he decided to take the reins of his life without focusing on unfairness or blame (and not connecting his energy with anyone who does) and he began truly living.

Brad told me he intentionally wakes up every morning with the motto “What great moments can I experience today?”  He gets up early five days a week to work out and meditate, spending time on his physical, spiritual and mental health before heading to his business.   Some days he does something extraordinarily thoughtful and special for someone close to him.  Weekly he signs up for a workout class he would have never tried before, just as often he will stop into a new coffee shop or boutique to try something he’d never heard of and leave a large, unexpected tip…and so on.  He keeps life flowing this way, free from becoming stale, idle or stagnant.

On a daily basis, Brad runs his life with this enthusiastic pace.  Once he got into the habit, it became his lifestyle, he’s lived this way for more than two decades.  Listening, I couldn’t help but catch his enthusiasm!

This once distraught man who thought life was over, is now in his 70’s and has not missed out on a single day.  He’s more active and alive than many who are a third his age!  Brad opened my eyes to the possibility of living a life fully awake to the value of time.

What seemed at first like a ruined life ended up being a change of direction toward a life he may have missed out on had he not experienced loss and disappointment.

Not that he would have wished for divorce, but sometimes you just have to play the hell out of the hand you’re dealt.

Brad’s attitude is truly an example of someone who took adversity and turned it into his motivation for making the most of all of his days.

It takes time, healing, support and mindfulness – but life can become whole again after loss, shock, change and upheaval.  It’s often after great darkness that we become most aware of the value of light.

The broken will always be able to love harder than most.  Once you’ve been in the dark you learn to appreciate everything that shines.”  ~The Positive Diaries

Wishing you peace, hope and effervescent life,

Annie

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End note:

“The funny thing about suffering life-changing tragedy…you are afterwards, afraid of nothing. When you’ve faced the worst sorrow and fear life could possibly bombard you with, what worse can you go through? What can a mere person do to hurt you after that? You become permanently unafraid and void of the petty concerns that tragedy-free people lose their cool over. And in some small way, that’s a comfort. This is a truth I’ve paid dearly to claim – I don’t scare as easily as I used to.” – Barbara Johnson*

*I wrote this statement down at a conference where Barbara Johnson was a speaking as she was saying it.  She has many published books on finding your way through the deep, horrendous waters of grief.  While I personally cannot speak as someone who knows the agony of losing a child, Barbara writes with full knowledge; having lost two sons.  Her books are on finding hope and even joy again.  I cannot recommend them enough for anyone struggling through the grief of unimaginable loss.

Some losses will always be with us, the loss of a child, partner, or any close, precious and much loved person changes the dynamics of who were are and how we live. It becomes a matter of managing life while carrying their absence within us.  But in their honor and with the best of memories, we must continue to live and find our way forward until we meet them again.

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Unhooked book link:

https://www.amazon.com/Unhooked-Mothers-Unhitching-Coaster-Addiction/dp/1942497210/ref=zg_bsnr_7916444011_2

For information, support and comfort:

http://tapunited.org   and    http://alliesinrecovery.net

Chris and Myers Part 1

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Drinking Dreams – Recovered 817

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A psychologist once said,
“Drinking dreams are a natural part of
the anxieties that come along with being sober.”
“They’re a sign of the battle sober people have with
admitting complete powerlessness over alcohol or drugs,”

It also may be our alcoholic brain trying to get a drink

Your first thoughts, where do you want to start??

What is drinking dream? Why do you think we have them?
Do you think normal people have them?
Do actively drinking alcoholics have drinking dreams?

Describe your drinking dream experiences
During your dream, did you experience guilt?
During your dream, was the experience celebratory?
During your dream, were you sneaking your drinks?
During your dream, were you drinking normally?
Was your dream vivid?

Do normal people have drinking dreams?
Drinking dreams is your alcoholic brain searching for a high, your thoughts?

Describe those feelings when you are in that semi conscious dream-state and you really thought you relapsed.
When you thought that the slip was real, did you think about how to keep it secret?
When you in that state that you thought the dream was real, did you feel remorse, loss, grief, and/or guilt?

Describe your feelings when you realized that it was just a dream and that you did not lose your sobriety.
Did the dream trigger the desire to use?
Do you talk to your sponsor about these dreams?
Do you talk about drinking dreams at meetings?
Should they be discussed at meetings?

Have you ever processed the drinking dream experience?
Have you journaled about your drinking dreams?
Have you ever thought about why you had that dream in context of what is going on in your life?
Have you noticed the relationship between stress and drinking dreams?
Have you noticed a relationship between success and drinking dreams?
Are you hanging with using friends?
Are you visiting old places where you used to use?

Final thoughts about drinking dreams.
Did you have them more frequently when you were new?
Do you have them now?
For you, are drinking dreams a red flag symbolizing something is wrong in your program?
What would you say to the new guy who just had his first drinking dream?

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Needing Support by Annie Highwater

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We have exciting news.  

Annie Highwater’s writings will appear regularly here on the Recovered Podcast website.   Annie is Author of a memoir “Unhooked”.  A mother’s story of Unhitching from the roller coaster of her son’s addiction. Annie shares how those experiences both helped and hindered what would be the hardest, most heartbreaking, challenge of her life– her son’s addiction to opiates. – Mark

Unhooked book link:

https://www.amazon.com/Unhooked-Mothers-Unhitching-Coaster-Addiction/dp/1942497210/ref=zg_bsnr_7916444011_2

her email – annieunhooked@gmail.com

Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/AnnieUnhooked/

Here is Annie’s latest article:


How important is support? I believe nature reveals to us that we are meant to support one another along the journey of life. Dolphins for instance are known to work together to catch fish, save sick friends and play. Recently researchers have recorded the clever cetaceans ‘talking’ to each other in order to solve a complex puzzle. The discovery suggests dolphins use a language dedicated to problem solving. I read an observation report about one dolphin becoming paralyzed, when others saw that it was unable to swim, they gathered to form a bridge of support under it, carefully raising their injured friend to the surface for air.

Joshua Plotnik, a behavioral ecologist at Mahidol University in Thailand, and primatologist Frans de Waal, director of Emory University’s Living Links Center, have shown through a controlled study what those who work with elephants have always believed: The animals offer something akin to human sympathetic concern when observing distress in another, including their relatives and friends. Elephants in another herd were once found solemnly gathered in a circle, weeping together over the body of a one of their herd who had died.

Along with dolphins and elephants; gorillas, dogs, cats, certain corvids (the bird group that includes ravens) and squirrels among others in nature, have been shown to recognize when a herd mate is upset, weakened or injured and to offer gentle caresses and chirps of sympathy, according to a study (published February 18 in the online journal PeerJ) .

In nature, lending comfort and support seems to come, well…natural.

Some years back I personally observed comfort and support from nonhumans when my beloved Cairn Terrier injured her spine, became paralyzed and went through major corrective surgery. She recovered, yet never regained full strength. For the next 4 years of her life I tended to her every need as my other dog and our cat watched over her closely. They stuck by her, ever present at her side, especially when she grew weaker or sick. I often found them sleeping one on each side of her, laying close against her.

When she later died, for months the two of them would sit with me in every room I was in, something they hadn’t done together before. Everyday they would lay at my feet, one on either side as I worked my way through the sadness and misery of losing my closest companion. That little dog had been like a baby to me, because of her many health issues I took care of her like a child. In some ways, caring for her had even become a distracting comfort when my son moved across the country, losing her was a traumatic shock. I was touched by how aware of my grief my remaining two seemed to be. Their loyal presence helped me get through that difficult time. Animals somehow sense when we are in need of extra comfort.

Not long ago I read that Redwood trees have surprisingly shallow roots compared to other trees. Redwood trees are some of the tallest, strongest trees, yet they have short roots that grow more wide than deep. However, these roots have an amazing ability to latch onto one another, growing tightly together as a strong force underground. The linking of roots allows for added strength, causing several trees to unite as a whole, standing together as one when storms come.

I. Love. That.

Nature gets it. So if support and comfort is vital in nature; what message does that send to us?

What a beautiful thing if that kind of support came naturally in every family and group setting. How much different would our lives be if we instinctively came together to raise each other up, without considering fault, blame or shame, without thinking of our personal issues or awkward feelings. How wonderful would it be if we didn’t hold back, but instead showed up, with opinions and differences aside and offered comfort and encouragement, rallying around someone in need. How much stronger would we be when the storms come.

I’ve most often found unconditional support in rooms of recovery. Managing the adversities of life can feel crushing, especially when you feel like you have to do it by yourself. Having reliable group support can provide great comfort alongside challenging times.

For most of my life I’d taught myself to have a stiff upper lip and push through trials. Therefore, support was most often reserved for a small handful of friends, Google or the self-help section of the Library. It was by chance I started attending family recovery meetings. We had already come through so much of the storm by the time I started going. But once I went, I never left. Supportive meetings were the final puzzle piece in my walk forward, a perfect fit.

After experiencing the profoundly healing effects of attending a good, solid support group, I now admit I regret the nights I walked the floors alone, agonizing about our circumstances (as detailed in my book “Unhooked”). I regret not having a safe place to vent my frustration or hear how others coped when dealing with their own. How I wish I would have had a room to go to from the beginning of the journey, to gather with people going through what I was going through. I would have found safety in those numbers and strength from others who could say “Yep, I’ve been there. That happened to me too. You’re not the only one. I get it.”

I did have very good friends to call and I was lucky enough to personally know a few professionals who I could contact in a pinch. Yet had I also been rooted around those going through the same dark waters I was drowning in, I believe it would have made navigating my way through them a lot easier. There’s just something about someone who has walked the same road telling you “It will be okay” that is truly worth its weight in gold.

We are some years past the havoc of addiction first raging through our home. But I still regularly meet with a group of support. Now that life is more calm and stable, I believe listening as well as giving comfort, encouragement and hope back is a great way to keep a stream of kindness flowing. No one should have to go through the harsh times of life alone. That’s when we need others to build a bridge under us and raise us up, especially when we’re feeling paralyzed. There are also times we’re called to be part of that bridge and help lift someone else up. Support is give and take. We all need it, we all need to offer it.

It’s not weak to admit you need some support, actually it’s strong. It’s real. And that’s not always easy, it takes courage. Being real is not for the phony or faint of heart.

The epidemic of addiction that our nation is experiencing is not stopping, or even slowing down. I believe it’s awakening us to our need to be open, honest and to compassionately support one another. Thankfully support groups are becoming more available. I strongly encourage everyone to research and find one that is a fit for you. Online or in person. We need all of it! Life can be brutal, it helps when you’re not alone. Support can make all the difference.

We need people to understand and care. That is where healing happens and strength develops. It’s as simple as that.

“Friendship is born at the moment when one person says to another, ‘What! You too? I thought I was the only one.’” ~ C.S. Lewis

Rooting for you,

Annie

For online support:

http://www.tapunited.org/

http://alliesinrecovery.net/

Unhooked:

https://www.amazon.com/Unhooked-Mothers-Unhitching-Coaster-Addiction/dp/1942497210/ref=zg_bsnr_7916444011_2

Interview with Author Annie Highwater – Recovered 816

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Annie is Author of the memoir
“Unhooked”.
A mother’s story of Unhitching from the roller coaster of her son’s addiction.

Annie, in your book you share how those experiences both helped and hindered what would be the hardest, most heartbreaking, challenge of your life– your son’s addiction to opiates.

If you would like to call in and tell Us about
Your experience with
A loved one’s addiction

you can call right now

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OK, ???
Today, we have the return of author Annie Highwater with us in the studio.
Annie, welcome back to the Recovered Podcast studio.

Annie, I’m going to have Anna introduce you to our listeners.
Anna take it from here

Introduction
Author Annie Highwater is a long distance runner, health and wellness advocate and a fanatical researcher of behavioral science, family pathology and concepts of dysfunction and conflict. Annie resides in Columbus, Ohio where she has worked in the insurance industry. She also enjoys writing, yoga and visiting her son in Southern California as often as possible.

Annie’s links will be in the show notes
Annie, welcome to the Recovered Studio

I know we have had you in studio before, but for those who
may not have
heard our previous episode, tell us a brief summary of your story.

First of all, how is you dog ????

Well, what has happened to you since we last saw each other last fall?

Tell us about
Your recent articles you have written.
What about service work, what have you been doing?
I understand you are writing for the web site
allies in recovery.net, tell us more.
You mentioned book #2 coming soon, what can we expect?

What have you learned since last fall.

How have you seen your higher power at work in your recovery?

What was the #1 thing that held you back in your recovery lately?
What good advice have you received recently?
What is something that is working in your life right now?
What would you say to the parent who is struggling with their addicted child?

Thank you for joining us today

So Remember; abandon yourself to God and admit your faults. Clear away the wreckage of
your past and give freely. God bless and see you next time.
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Audrey and Julie Step 12 – Recovered 815

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Audrey and Julie Steps 10 and 11 – Recovered 814

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Adult Children of Alcoholics (ACOA) – Recovered 813

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Whether you have parents who were alcoholic or if you had children while you were drinking, you experienced an alcoholic family which produced an Adult Children of Alcoholics.

What is ACOA?
How is it different from Al-Anon?
Can you bring ACOA issues to an AA table?
Why? Why not?

What was your experience of growing up in an alcoholic family?
What survival skills did you learn?
How have these coping skills affected you as an adult?
What are some traits you developed as a person growing up in an alcoholic family?

What are typical characteristics of the alcoholic family?

In an alcoholic family, rigidity, silence, denial, and isolation are typical. What Is your experience?
In the alcoholic family, anger, fear, betrayal, poverty/scarcity, lack of safety, etc. are common. What is your experience?

Every alcoholic family experiences abandonment.
What was your experience?
Physical
Emotional

How is dealing with ACOA issues good for AA recovery?

Most of our listeners have probably created an ACOA.
Anyone in denial of this fact? Everybody agree?

Here is some controversy
Even if you weren’t drinking, we still create ACOAs

How should someone approach the subject with their adult child?
Has anybody recommended ACOA for their adult child?
When should an AA recommend ACOA for their adult child?

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What would you say to the new guy??
Final Thoughts?

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Rule 62 Humility – Recovered 810

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Humility is a personal quality that can be undervalued in the modern world. The modern focus is on individual empowerment and assertiveness. Most people will admit that humility is praiseworthy, but it tends to be associated with weakness. This misunderstanding about humility means that people fail to recognize how much it could benefit their lives.

Individuals who have escaped an addiction to alcohol or drugs will need to develop at least some degree of humility. If they fail to do so, they will be faced with a barrier to progress. The good news is that once people do begin to practice being humble, they will discover that it can bring substantial joy to their life. At this point, it can become a habit.

What is Rule 62?
Where is this story found?
How does it relate to Tradition 4?
Have you ever had a similar experience?

What is humility?
Why is it important?
How is it gained? What step, tradition?
How is it lost?

What are the benefits of humility?
What are the challenges of humility?

When is it ok to be assertive?
When is it not ok to be assertive?
What is arrogance and why is it a danger?

What is false humility?

How is humility and spirituality related?

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Matt in Nebraska
https://www.google.com/voice/fm/00557165274674955804/AHwOX_A89VCMLnFE1zkUob9c6_oa52I3kcCJe8LIZ7PW01oG2DAQnA31bff_Ms-sv23PjXbced3yh6FR-X4_gdLyaYqJo4lOg8VsQKTa58qdVRuApv4jZ36FxQ1qJwGa4m5SbJhD5XT3BLjZQOgo3_6ldThjI-dsQw

Thomas from Austin
https://www.google.com/voice/fm/00557165274674955804/AHwOX_BdLUzr_3tTu19TKJcVE849EVOY-_BzfY4DLrJueDSl87g0YfVVlB-7XwGfTTZmxFXjEJcqJktlDwwqeAPuj6dD8tEjl_2zD6dDePAj90P-BCjGHGoaWl5P5iLKbLtT17r5vEKfnS4sh67y9ZTmImLB4a3N1A

Gregg from LA
https://www.google.com/voice/fm/00557165274674955804/AHwOX_D1P3vOtZlGozAFpHjermShfn-wP7W76C6cSqOrssRmysamOfk_M_eU19aD3Oiy521rUVF8kb4SS8RHw3p4zM05_V_yPzG2sn8RZFgs47khgJHU50J0wKZc3AIx3F_4qVjoykJHA4nqys6w0jVstNn5JL1GTA

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Audrey and Julie Steps 5 , 6, and 7 – Recovered 808

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Our generous Recovered Podcast Community allows us to be self supporting and not rely on outside contributions.  If you would like to join us, there are two ways.

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The Recovered Podcast Community is not a glum lot.  They contribute to the show and what they share is exactly what someone else needs to hear.  The new guy needs to hear your story.  So honor your 12th step obligation by calling in and help the guy who has not yet gone to his first meeting, you may make the difference in his life.  There are two ways to add to the show:

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