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Kayla’s Korner – Dating and Relationships in Recovery

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Dating in Recovery 

When I came into Alcoholics Anonymous at the age of 23, I was a few months out of a long-term relationship. I am now grateful to have been single when I entered AA, because I was able to fully devote my time to the program. I wanted to be sober and clean so badly, I was willing to go to any lengths, but that could have been different if I was involved with the people I was connected to at that time in my life. Being a codependent person, I was lonely often, but I had an amazing sponsor and home group to ease the transition.

I progressed in AA and begin to grow and developed into someone who I wanted to be that I was afraid to let out before. I remember the first conversation I had with my sponsor at her house about sponsoring and what her role is in the program as my sponsor. Being my first time in AA she told me about 13 th stepping. I remember thinking, “Uh god! Don’t worry about me.” (Little did I know, the 13th step would prove to be a crucial one along my journey. or something to transition). The first meeting I regularly attended was primarily older adults. A few months into my sobriety, I found a meeting at ten o’clock at night which had a lot of young people there. I keep going back because it was nice to see I wasn’t the only person young and sober. It took a while to make friends, but at about 8 months sober, I began to make a few friends. There were only a few women at this meeting, and I began growing closer to one of them who was also friends with a lot of young men. I felt like I constantly had to set boundaries. I wanted to be single my first year of sobriety. I was always following suggestions and that was one I heard people talk a lot about. But of, course, around ten months sober, I met a young guy who started off as a friend (as most relationships do) and things began to progress.

We were interested in the same hobbies and had so much fun together. I couldn’t believe where my life was at! I was working on all of my attributes; I wanted this to be different from my relationships in the past where I was just living in my character defects. Ultimately, I can’t say the same for him. I was cheated on, and, to this day, that was the worst I felt in this program.  I remember I wanted to escape my feelings so badly that I could go either way: back to a life of misery or progress and learn from this experience. Gratefully, I dove back into the program and took it as a lesson. It did take a while and a lot of calls to my sponsor, but I used her. I never made so many calls to her before, but I knew what to do when I was feeling vulnerable, and she never failed to answer my call.

Fast forward a year and half later, and this person after, after relapsing, came back to meetings and made an amends to me. We became friends and I truly hope the best for this person. This experience gave me so many lessons. Forgiveness was definitely one of them.

As you can imagine, after my experience with (let’s call him Steve),I wasn’t out trying to make things happen in the love department. I was afraid of putting myself back into another situation that may cause me emotional distress. I was afraid of actually having to again find my serenity in chaos. I was so used to my life being simple and not having much emotional disruption that I was terrified that a relationship might push me back into my insecure, fearful self. Lo and behold, I have a few friends in the program that talked me into trying online dating. They thought it might be a good way to build confidence and trying something different. I gave in and dated here and there. It did teach me a lot, but It was also kind of tough dating people who weren’t that open to my lifestyle. Some guys would say it wasn’t a big deal that I didn’t drink, but later, as they saw how serious I was about sobriety, decided that they drink too much and our dating probably wasn’t a good idea. When I let myself really like a guy and the courting fell through or a guy stopped talking to me once I said I don’t drink, it would really bother me. I had to seek my high power even harder during these times. I went through times where I wished I wasn’t who I am and wondered “why can’t my life be different?” At that same time though, I was immensely grateful to be able to live two lives in one, thanks to this program.

Finally, I met a guy I was really excited about; it was a long distance type of situation. We met online and he was also in the program (to my surprise). After a few weeks of talking and getting to know each other, he made a trip to see me. (Wow as I am writing this, I’m thinking I sound pathetic! Oh well. I’m just getting started!“ insert emoji here)

When he left we had an idea of where our relationship was going and what are possibilities for us were. He left on a Friday and I didn’t hear from him for a few days. I was trying not to get girl crazy and lose my mind, but it was definitely happening. From talking and face-timing all day long to nothing at all? I couldn’t believe it! Then a helpful friend asked if I had googled him. I was thinking like, “wtf?! No way have I googled him; that’s crazy!” When I got home that night, the thought came back to me. The next thing I know, I’m looking at a Baby’s R Us registry with his name on it, along with the due date of some chick I’d certainly never heard of. To make matters even stranger, her due date was my sobriety date! I nearly died. I couldn’t believe it. Let’s just say crazy Kayla came out to my friends and family. So I thought about it and sent him a screen shot of him and the baby, and wished him congratulations.

(MY LIFE! Yes, I am dramatic). Well, he definitely called me right away and gave me some lame apology– blah blah blah. I could tell he was genuinely upset about the situation, but we haven’t talked since. I did, however, learn that he got back together with his baby momma (Thanks, social media!).

Lessons learned: always​Google! Honestly though, I’m still not over it but working on it. To help, my sponsor told me something that changed me from living in self-pity to moving forward and accepting the situation. He said:“If he didn’t apologize to you, I am. Kayla, I am sorry, sorry that he hurt you, I am sorry for the pain you are going through.” (Sweet, right? Here’s the real kicker:) “Kayla you were honest, trusting, loving; you were yourself. But from here on out, if you change yourself because of him, that’s on you​, ​not on him. Don’t let him change you! You did everything right.”

That’s exactly what I needed to hear. Now, any time I feel lonely, I think that this is certainly my lesson in solitude. As I grow everyday through this program, I keep in mind those words he shared with me. I know who am I am and who I don’t want to be. I am grateful I have these 12 steps and a high power of my own understanding to help me along the way. Don’t you forget these things either. Who are you? Who do you want to be? From here on out, if you change, let it be for you.

Kayla S

I would love to read your experiences changing for yourself, not for others or figuring out who you want to be. What about lessons learned through dating or means of coping with loneliness throughout the journey.

Dating and Relationships – Recovered 629

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This seems to be one of the trickiest part of recovery, those relationships that are the closest

We learn all kinds of new things like

honesty

boundaries

we need to practice these principles in all our affairs especially close ones

When you first came into the program, were you in a relationship?

How did sobriety effect that relationship?

what were your thoughts first coming in

what are your thoughts now

experiences?


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Bill – New Jersey

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dating inside the program…pluses minus

dating outside the program…pluses and minus

some tips for the new guy

one year rule

my experience is that sobriety changes relationships.

with my wife, how to have fun, regaining trust,

with my sons

with Andrew, improved immediately, we had something common

with Steven, not so much.  just last night he told me that he has never seen me drunk and he really didn’t experience the effects of alcoholism until I got sober, because I was miserable for a year.

 

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Call Recovered About Dating in Recovery

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Tuesday, our Recovery Topic is Dating and Relationships in Recovery

 

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We will talk about some of the challenges about relationships in recovery

Your initial thoughts?

When you first came into the program, were you in a relationship?

How did sobriety effect that relationship?

What were your thoughts first coming in?

What are your thoughts now?

 

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Call Recovered About Dating in Recovery

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Tuesday, our Recovery Topic is Dating and Relationships in Recovery

Call 1-734-288-7510 or
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Call us and answer any of the following questions:
We will talk about some of the challenges about relationships in recovery
Your initial thoughts?
When you first came into the program, were you in a relationship?
How did sobriety effect that relationship?
What were your thoughts first coming in?
What are your thoughts now?

Join us live Tuesday,September 8 at 6:30 EDT (-5 GMT).
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Family of Origin – Recovered 627

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Let’s begin this important topic with you,’what was your family of origin like, did you have brothers and sisters, were you grandparents around?  What about your aunts and uncles?

Exploring the past is important in recovery, why is this true for you?

How do secrets and denial keep a family sick?

Why are secrets and denial common in the alcoholic family?

How does growing up in this environment of secrets and denial affect you as an adult?

How does the past pain affect your present?

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Did you have trauma as a child?

How did this affect you in your disease?

What are some of the things you had to unlearn?

What steps, slogans, prayers, people helped in this process of healing?

How has your family of origin helped you in recovery?

How are you trying to break the cycle of alcoholic family tendencies in your present family?

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Call Into Recovered and Tell Us About Your Family of Origin

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Tuesday, our Recovery Topic is The Family of Origin

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Exploring the past is important in recovery, why is this true for you?
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Why are secrets and denial common in the alcoholic family?

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Special App Owner Open Talk Rebecca W.- Recovered 626

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Discernment – Recovered 625

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Webster says that discernment is the ability to judge well.
But, true discernment means not only distinguishing the right from the wrong;
it means distinguishing the primary from the secondary,
the essential from the indifferent, and the
permanent from the temporary.
And, yes, it means distinguishing between the good and the better,
and even between the better and the best.
But Matt, let’s start with you
What is discernment to you and Why is discernment important in recovery?
What are some of the consequences of bad discernment when you were in recovery?
What would you do different?
How do you judge something as good for you or bad for you?
What recovery tools do you use in this process?
Can you judge something as good or bad by yourself?
How does a sponsor or someone else help in this process?
How do you know when something is right for you?
How do you know when something is bad for you?
Bill from New Jersey
Sometimes we are faced with the decision between two good things.  This is where the rubber meets the road.
How does judging well affect your life?
  • less fear?
  • more confidence?
  • better sobriety?
  • more freedom?
How does your higher power influence your discernment process?
What would you say to the new guy who is struggling to know what is right for him?

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