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Meeting Types – Recovered 767

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If you are new to the idea of going to your first 12-step recovery meeting, you may be curious regarding what to expect at your first meeting.

You may have heard us talk about a Lead Discussion meeting and you have no idea what that means. Well, we will address that problem tonight.

There many types of meetings

Some include:

Open Meetings:
Closed Meetings:
Beginners Meetings:
Topic Meetings
Speaker Meetings/Open Talls
speaker-discussion meetings.
Step Meetings:
Big Book Study Meetings:
Traditions meetings
Cross Talk Meetings
Gender specific meeting

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For our listeners who may not have yet attended an AA meeting, describe meetings you attend.
What does the room look like?
Where do you sit?
What do you say?
What is the format like?

What type of meeting are you most familiar?
What is your favorite meeting type?
What is your least favorite meeting type?
What is the most unusual type of meetings?
What unusual meeting location have you experienced?
What is the smallest meeting?
What was the largest meeting?

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Great Coffee

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If you’re like me and are a bit of a coffee snob, you’ll love this…
 
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Recovery and Therapy – Recovered 765

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As a way to prepare for this episode, I asked our listeners about their experience with Recovery and Therapy. As always, our listeners responded. I asked our listeners if they have every been to therapy.
What percentage of our audience do you think has been in therapy for mental health?
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Many of us in recovery have found it helpful to receive mental health treatments such as talk therapy in addition to participation in a 12-step recovery program. Many of us have family of origin difficulties, the stress of dealing with the damages we have caused, many of us have been the victims of violence and abuse. Members have found that specialists in the mental health field can help in the healing process that sobriety offers.
But, sometimes, stigma within the recovering community can prevent us from seeking treatment. As we discussed last week, mental health disorders can kill and we at the Recovered Podcast advocate seeking professional help in addition to full and active participation in a 12-step recovering community.

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Well, Chrissy, those are my opinions and I welcome everyone’s pinion tonight. Including you folks in the chat room.

What is your experience with this topic?
What is your philosophy regarding seeking treatment in addition to 12-step recovery?
What is your experience, have you ever had treatment?
Was it helpful?
How is it helpful?
Did you find it in opposition to AA?
Was your therapist familiar with AA?
How much sobriety did you have when you went in treatment?
How did you select a therapist?
Did you shop around?
What was your first visit like?
What should someone who has never been to therapy expect?
Was your insurance coverage a factor?

What makes a good therapist?
What makes a bad therapist?

How is therapy similar to AA meetings?
How is therapy similar to AA meetings?

Have you ever discussed this topic with a sponsee?

What would you say to the new guy?

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Call Recovered About Recovery and Medicine

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On Tuesday, December 6,  2016, The Recovery Topic is “Recovery and Therapy.”
 
Many of us in recovery have found it helpful to receive mental health treatments such as talk therapy in addition to participation in a 12-step recovery program.
 
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Was it helpful?
What was your experience?
How did you select a therapist?
 
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Call Recovered About Recovery and Therapy

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On Tuesday, December 6,  2016, The Recovery Topic is “Recovery and Therapy.”
 
Many of us in recovery have found it helpful to receive mental health treatments such as talk therapy in addition to participation in a 12-step recovery program.
Let’s talk about this solution.  Tap Speakpipe or Wavve (especially if you are outside the Unites States) or call 1-734-288-7510 and answer the following question(s):
Have you ever seen a therapist in addition to a 12-step program?
Was it helpful?
What was your experience?
How did you select a therapist?
 
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If you would like to listen to the live stream of the show, just tap Recovered Chat and Live Stream.  We give away an Amazon gift card each week, you could win if you join us on Tuesdays.  
 
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Joe and Charlie Eleventh Step – Recovered 764

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Medicine and Recovery – Recovered 763

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Some people in recovery must take prescribed medication for medical problems. However, it is generally accepted that the misuse of prescription medication and other drugs can threaten the achievement and maintenance of sobriety.

AA provides some suggestions regarding sobriety and use of medicines.

+No A.A. member should “play doctor”;
?Active participation in the A.A. program of recovery is a safeguard against relapse.
?Be honest with your doctor and yourself about your medicine.
?Tell your doctor that you are an alcoholic.

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Your thoughts on these official AA suggestions?
What are you thoughts on the council to :
don’t play doctor,
go to meetings, and
be honest with your doctor?
Have you heard any other suggestions?

The topic tonight is recovery and medicine.

For me there are different classes of medicine as it relates to the alcoholic.

Let’s start with how we manage medications for minor illnesses and pain.

Minor illness such as colds and flus or and pain management related to dental work and minor surgeries.

What is your experience with medicines for these types of situations, how do you manage a cold?
What about cold meds?
How do you manage cold and flu symptoms?
What about nyquil?

How about pain meds, what is your philosophy regarding these medicines?
Have you taken pain meds?
How did you manage the dosing?
Did you self administer or did you have someone else manage the dosing?

Let’s now move into other medical problems such as mental health care.
Now, a different class of medications.
Medicines for mental health

Feeling miserable isn’t uncommon in early sobriety. Withdrawing from any substance to which you are addicted may produce symptoms of depression, such as changes in sleep patterns, feelings of helplessness, and appetite or weight changes.

In trying to picture the relationship between addiction and depression, it’s important to understand four things:

Not everyone with addiction has a depressive disorder.
Not everyone with a depressive disorder has an addiction.
People with a dual diagnosis have two separate conditions, each requiring different treatments.
Despite this, the state of your recovery from one frequently impacts your recovery from the other.

People who are in addiction recovery are far more likely to relapse if they are depressed. And according to one disturbing estimate, “suicide is the cause of death for an estimated 25 percent of treated alcoholics.”

Thoughts?
Have you taken anti depressants?
What was our experience?

“studies suggest that for individuals with repeated depressive episodes, a combination of therapy and antidepressants are the most effective course of treatment.”

What about therapy and medicine?

Most recovery programs cite abstinence from drugs and alcohol as the best?indeed the only?way to overcome addiction. As a result, stigma often surrounds the use of medication to help with Major Depressive Disorder (MDD).

What is your experience with stigma and taking prescription medicine within the recovering community?

Now, let’s move into another territory, the medicines that are far riskier in my estimation.

Let’s focus on opioids and benzos

Addictive drugs such as opioids and benzodiazepines have a few things in common. The user feels the effect of the drug soon after taking it and feels high for a period of time. When someone who is addicted “comes down,” they want more. Eventually, the same amount of a drug produces a less effective high, and more of the drug will be required to achieve the desired effect.

Antidepressants, on the other hand, take weeks, and sometimes months to take effect. Further, They do not really make people feel ‘high,’ they are not abused in a pattern of escalating doses and they have little black-market value.” The bottom line? “In general, antidepressants do not pose substantial risk to people in recovery.”

What are your opinions on the differences between these two classes of meds?

Drugs are not the solution to addiction. But for people who struggle with addiction as well as a depressive disorder, antidepressants can be a key ingredient of lifelong recovery.

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