Mark S

Bill Wilson writes, “Good judgement, a careful sense of timing, courage and prudence – these are qualities needed when we take Step 9.” It is a painful, humbling step. But it is also rewarding. AA’s Twelve Promises are said to come true with the Ninth Step.

This is an action step. We determine, after prayer and consultation with our sponsor, the specific amends we need to make to each person we have harmed. And, of course, we make the actual amends to each person on our Eighth Step list.

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Let’s go to you first Cristie, where do you want to begin on this topic, Ninth Sep?

What does direct amends mean to you?

What would stop you from making an amends?

Do you ever rehearse an amend before actually making it?  Why? Did it help?

What are your thoughts on the exception clause (except when to do so would injure them or others) of his step?

What is the difference between an amends and an apology?

Is there an amends that you are putting off right now?  Why?

How do you make an amends to someone who is not alive or available?

What does the word “reparations” mean to you?

What guidelines do you use in determining the amend to be made?

Were you ready to suffer the consequences of this step?

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Clyde from Shelby

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Alex from Austin

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Bill from New Jersey

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Kurt

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What would you say to the new person faced with Step 9 for the first time?

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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016, The Recovery Topic is Step 9. Made a list of persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

Bill Wilson writes, “Good judgement, a careful sense of timing, courage and prudence – these are qualities needed when we take Step 9.” It is a painful, humbling step. But it is also rewarding. AA’s Twelve Promises are said to come true with the Ninth Step.

This is an action step. We determine, after prayer and consultation with our sponsor, the specific amends we need to make to each person we have harmed. And, of course, we make the actual amends to each person on our Eighth Step list.

Let’s talk about this solution. Tap Speakpipe (especially if you are outside the Unites States) or call 1-734-288-7510 and answer the following question(s):

Who was the first person you made an amends to?
What was their reaction?
What did you learn?

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Step 8 is concerned with our personal relationships.  It is an examination of how we have dealt with people in the past and, more specifically, how we have harmed them.  This step is the basis for developing a more productive and satisfactory way of dealing with others. The AA 12 and 12 says that step 8 is the beginning of the end of isolation from our fellows and from God.

According to the Alcoholics Anonymous 12 and 12, steps 8 & 9 involved this process:

we take a look backward and try to discover where we had been at fault,
we make a vigorous attempt to repair the damage we have done, and

This is a very large order.

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what are your initial thoughts on this step?
What is the purpose of this step?
What does it mean to make amends to someone to you?
What is the role of forgiveness for you in the amends process?
What does the term harm mean in this step to you?
Why must we be willing to make amends to all those we have harmed? Can’t there be any exceptions?
Have you resisted making this list? If so, why?
Did you use your 4th step as a tool in preparation?
The first time you took this step? Where are you willing to make amends?
Have you ever prayed for the willingness to be willing?
Have you ever put yourself on this list?
How does your higher power play a role in this step?
How has your sponsor help you in this step?
What prayers have you used during this step?
What slogans have you used during this step?
We Have Calls!
Clyde

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Kurt
https://www.google.com/voice/fm/00557165274674955804/AHwOX_CARgdR_IkcPZSItRZxx8PlW2-LYn4t8sIVH8qnnpbJHYWAbyGeVmXw8duW3jQFhYV9kROt7ppr-7EYU920Kofex6b4n_qgwPG2FI9_B04OaY24r1TViLoQwPsQVbFL1sI2QjsB7MHux0Hk6A1hP6Etb-_csA

Alex
https://www.google.com/voice/fm/00557165274674955804/AHwOX_AeD_X8TGZQ32HDI8Uvf98-rl7sc2oJGsW7WmypOnHVb4URZ6Zk19kv_L8mrZ2uYeaeuqUQOB6P-JbNiJbtbIMuqS6KoYtSzGNlVxfkchXA_aaNqwhoUOI5mqQdK38y6dMK6r0E80b0hdj8Tihcwo4UNfuFiw

Mandy
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Bill from New Jersey
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Hannah from London
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John
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What would you say to the new guy about Step 8?
 

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Had to cancel our regularly scheduled episode on Step 8.  Join us next week as we dive into this topic.  In the meantime, enjoy Joe and Charlie as they discuss Step 8.

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On Tuesday, March 1,  2016, The Recovery Topic is Step 8.  Made a list of persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

Step 8 is concerned with our personal relationships.  It is an examination of how we have dealt with people in the past and, more specifically, how we have harmed them.  This step is the basis for developing a more productive and satisfactory way of dealing with others. The AA 12 and 12 says that step 8 is the beginning of the end of isolation from our fellows and from God.

According to the Alcoholics Anonymous 12 and 12, steps 8 & 9 involved this process:

1. we take a look backward and try to discover where we had been at fault,
2. we make a vigorous attempt to repair the damage we have done, and
3. have a thus cleaned away the debris of the past, we consider how, with our new found knowledge of ourselves, we may develop the best possible relations with every human being we know.

This is a very large order.
The Eighth  steps suggest that we prepare an amends list. This list should be in writing and include the names of all the people we have harmed who appeared in our fourth step inventory. We add the names of anyone we had forgotten or overlooked. Have we included everyone whom we can remember? Is there anyone to whom we did something that we still feel guilty about? The Alcoholics Anonymous 12 and 12 says that we ransack memory for the people to whom we have given offense. To put a finger on the nearby and most deeply damaged ones shouldn’t be hard to do. Then, as year by year we walk back through our lives as far as our memory will reach, we shall be bound to construct a long list of people who have, to some extent or another, been affected. Our objective is to make the list as complete as possible.

Let’s talk about this solution.  Tap Speakpipe (especially if you are outside the Unites States) or call 1-734-288-7510 and answer the following question(s):

What is the purpose of this step?
Have you ever put yourself on this list?

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Our Topic on Tuesday, March 1, 2016 will be on Step 8, Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

The Twelve and Twelve tells us that “the whole emphasis of Step Seven is on humility.”  We first looked at humility in the Third Step when we made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God.  Without some humility, no alcoholic can stay sober, no Al-Anon can stay serene.  Our experience has shown us that without humility, we cannot live a purposeful life.  AA teaches us that a useful life is one in the service of others.  This may be a bit tricky for the Al-Anon since we so often are worried about others that we forget about ourselves.

Bill Wilson explains humility this way, “As long as we placed self-reliance first, genuine reliance upon a Higher Power was out of the question.  That basic ingredient of humility is a desire to seek and do God’s will.”  When we live life run on self will, humility is missing.  Humility, we discover, is not something to re resisted, but something to be accepted.  

Bill Wilson wrote that the process of accepting humility “was unbelievably painful.  It was only by repeated humiliations that we were forced to learn something about humility.”  Taking the Third Step was a bold example of spiritual humility because it was a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God.  With the Seventh Step, we have an opportunity to put that decision into practice by asking God to do something specific for us.  We are humbly asking God to remove our character defects.  We are saying your will, not mine.   But we must accept the terms, conditions, and timetable that our Higher Power has in mind.

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We conducted a survey so that our listeners can help us understand this step

We posed the question, “What does humble mean to you?”

The possible responses were …

https://www.surveymonkey.com/analyze/eZfqbdNAalFL8WtGq8cIf7nLG1usZk4JSs8edkIhoFw_3D’

What is interesting is that this survey proves that we people in a 12-step recovery program have our own language.

The possible responses I provided in the survey sent to our listeners came directly from the definition of humble in the dictionary.

But “other” was the second most popular response.

In other words, being humble means something different to AAs than normal people.

So ,? let’s discuss how we understand this step and how humility plays a role.

What does it mean to you to be humble?

How are you humble?  How can I become more humble?

What does the term “humbly ask” mean to you?

Before program, what did you think of humility? Was it a positive/negative?

Before program, did you experience humiliation?

What is the difference between humility and humiliation?

What are “our shortcomings?”

How is Step 3 related to Step 7?

How does acceptance relate to Step 7?

What is the Seventh Step Prayer?

The Seventh Step Prayer
from page 76 of the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous
My Creator,
I am now willing that You should have all of me,
good and bad.
I pray that You now remove from me
every single defect of character which stands in the way
of my usefulness to You and my fellows.
Grant me strength, as I go out from here,
to do Your bidding.
Amen

What does it mean to you that God “should have all of me, good and bad?”

In this prayer, character defects stand in the was of being useful to others and God.  What does this mean to you?

What does it mean to you “to do your bidding?”

We  have Calls

Kurt

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Scott

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Clyde from Shelby Township

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Tony

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Russ

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Alex

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How about now, have you been humiliated in recovery?

Is there a difference in how you responded to humiliated between before and after program?

What would you say to the new person faced with Step 7 for the first time?

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Our topic on Tuesday will be on Step 7, humbly asked Him to remove all these defects of character. Take our survey and help us prepare for the show.

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